How To Open A Coin Case

Camerinvs

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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 07:01

I finally did it. My merely coin in an NGC holder has finally been freed from that ugly case. Given that it is a darker base-metal coin, information technology was almost impossible to see it through the plastic, let lone photograph it. I was going to ask on this forum how to cleft open up such holders, simply went to YouTube and watched three short videos. In all cases a hammer was used. I was going to do the same matter simply idea of something else. Here are some pictures:

❶ and ❷ before starting ─ the coin, holder, and an antiquarian vise:
❶ ❷

❸ squeezing the holder at unlike points; popping sounds bespeak that it is smashing open:
❸

❹ and ❺ later having carefully used a spiral driver to finish the job:
❹ ❺

❻ and ❼ taking the money out of the rubber:
❻ ❼

❽ and ❾ the coin is out:
❽ ❾

Equally y'all can see, it is a depression grade coin, but significant for its F D countermark. The host is a French Colonies 5 centimes with the head of Charles X who ruled 1824─1830.

Any thoughts?

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kommodore

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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 09:37

I don't like those cases either.

MonaSeaclaid

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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 12:42

That's awesome, and the coin is cute!

Bonus pocket modify in the background too!

Peter K. Graham

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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 13:09

Some other reason I prefer the ICCS holder. All you need is a precipitous, pair of pair of scissors.

Earlier....

And after......

It ain't what you don't know that gets yous into trouble. It's what yous know for sure, that but ain't so. Mark Twain

MonaSeaclaid

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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, fourteen:03

Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 14:03

I don't encounter the tools you used. How do nosotros know it wasn't witchcraft!?

I've but had one sealed coin and it was in an ICCS holder. I left information technology there considering I could run across and handle both sides of the money. I don't think I could proceed an NGC holder though, so awkward.

apuking

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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 14:31

Must take opened about 30 cases already, never had an consequence except for sometimes having plenty of very small sharp plastic pieces all over the place.

I do however have some coins in cases that will be kept this mode.

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Camerinvs

Joined: 19-May-2016
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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 17:05

Quoting ...

Peter M. Graham on 24-Aug-2017, 07:09AM: "Some other reason I prefer the ICCS holder. All you need is a sharp, pair of scissors."
► I've cut a few myself and more are to come. I desire all coins in a series to be organized together. I'k not going to organize historical objects according to what type of holders they are inserted in. In add-on, colonial and other coppers are oftentimes night and barely visible through layers of plastic (and air bubbles in the instance of the ICCS holders).

MonaSeaclaid on 24-Aug-2017, 08:03AM: "I don't run across the tools you lot used. How exercise nosotros know it wasn't witchcraft!?"
► The tools are the vise and screwdriver ─ that'south it! The only witchcraft I used was to produce those cool numbers, ❶, ❷, etc.

apuking on 24-Aug-2017, 08:31AM: "Must have opened most 30 cases already, never had an issue except for sometimes having enough of very small sharp plastic pieces all over the place."
► With my technique I ended upward with a single small slice as you can run across it on pics # ❹ and ❺.

I predictable that some Numista members would scold me for doing this, but kommodore set up the tone in the right management!

pnightingale

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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 17:46

Well done, you are a liberator of coins.

I've washed it with a hammer and a one inch chisel without causing any damage, except the chisel needs a quick rub on the oilstone afterwards. Tap, twist, repeat as needed.

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Camerinvs

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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 18:xiii

Posted: 24-Aug-2017, 18:13

Quote: "pnightingale"Well done, you are a liberator of coins.

I've done it with a hammer and a 1 inch chisel without causing any harm, except the chisel needs a quick rub on the oilstone afterwards. Tap, twist, echo equally needed.

I have now joined the select club of Liberators of Coins ...

It seems to me that slabbing is a thing to do for investors more than collectors. I am not interested in investing and I'm certainly not interested in these MS68 vs. MS70 arguments. This, IMHO, is irrelevant to numismatics.

But I say to any serious collectors on Numista who like their slabs ─ No problem! Salubrious!

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SRV5490

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Posted: 24-Aug-2017, xviii:24

Posted: 24-Aug-2017, eighteen:24

The NGC or PCGS slabbed coins that I have purchased were more for the hallmark than the grade.

MonaSeaclaid

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Posted: 25-Aug-2017, 03:51

I'1000 sorry! The invisible tools I was joking about was Peter M. Graham's pair of scissors.

But I was going to inquire about the witchcraft numbers.

Camerinvs

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Posted: 25-Aug-2017, 06:17

Quoting ...

SRV5490 on 24-Aug-2017, 12:24PM: "The NGC or PCGS slabbed coins that I have purchased were more for the authentication than the grade."
► That's a good point and I would be willing to purchase a slab precisely for that reason, especially if I don't know the seller and the coin is expensive.

MonaSeaclaid on 24-Aug-2017, 09:51PM: "The invisible tools I was joking about was Peter M. Graham'due south scissors.
But I was going to ask about the witchcraft numbers."
► Since I don't know the ASCII codes, I simply used the symbols menu in Give-and-take. I unremarkably utilize ASCII codes (alt + number) for ½ ¼ £ ¢ and so on.

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yvon

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Posted: 25-Aug-2017, 21:23

I am happy to come across, that I am not the simply one who liberated coins out of this ugly things,
the offset fourth dimension I did I was really shivering, but luckily enough it went very well.
For me it is much more important to shop and brandish my coins on the fashion I prefer,
than to keep them in this things with their barcodes and then on.

...you can run, but yous can't hide...

Mark240590

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Posted: 26-Aug-2017, 07:forty

Posted: 26-Aug-2017, 07:40

I've always but used a hammer. I've bust out 3 up to now but I recollect the other five will stay in their slabs for the time existence.

neilithic

Joined: 28-Mar-2011
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Posted: 26-Aug-2017, 13:06

Did yous pause with the hammer over the case thinking "some moron paid $30 to have this coin put in here" before busting information technology to smithereens and liberating the coin?

Camerinvs

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Posted: 26-Aug-2017, xviii:37

Posted: 26-Aug-2017, 18:37

I never thought of the price... $thirty?? Wow! Unfortunately, this means that the slabbing cost is passed down from buyer to heir-apparent.

Notwithstanding, I suppose that for really expensive coins the slabbing (with bar code traceable to NGC and other reputable companies) volition bring about buyers' confidence and increase the auction'due south cost at auctions.

MonaSeaclaid

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Posted: 26-Aug-2017, 21:33

$30? For a $3000 money then information technology's a sound investment to take it verified, simply can you imagine putting that money down for lower-valued coins? It really puts the "don't buy the packaging, buy the money" philosophy into a new low-cal.

pnightingale

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Posted: 26-Aug-2017, 22:22

That's $30 plus 2 way insured postage, making information technology more than like $50. Doesn't make much sense for a $100 money eh?

Dealers pay far less than this by using bulk submissions. If you accept a friendly (and trustworthy!) local money store who will submit your single money along with theirs, it's the only cost effective way to do this on coins less than $300.

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Mr. Midnight

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Posted: 27-Aug-2017, 01:56

The well-nigh depressing information I have recently is that the slabs too are counterfeited by Chinese forgers.

Jamais l'or n'a perdu la plus petite occasion de se montrer stupide. -Balzac

MonaSeaclaid

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Posted: 27-Aug-2017, 14:26

And doing a fairly accurate job of information technology from what I've heard.

Camerinvs

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Posted: 28-Aug-2017, 18:08

There is at least one grading company in Bharat that overgrades. And then, they volition draw business from people who want graded coins for immediate resale, hoping that enough buyers volition be fooled by the holder. This site, full of spelling and formatting errors, doesn't inspire confidence.

There'south a United states of america dealer who puts his coins in bare holders with hand-fabricated labels. Would yous exist surprised if I told you lot that he is no conservative grader?

One shouldn't be fooled by "we" every bit in: "We course coins professionally". "Nosotros" may well exist a guy in his basement ─or worse: his parents' basement─ with the basic equipment.

Also, names such as "The Peachy International Numismatic Company" are meant to inspire confidence ─ it may, once more, only be a guy in his parents' basement.

MonaSeaclaid

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Posted: 28-Aug-2017, eighteen:46

Posted: 28-Aug-2017, 18:46

But they're both great and international. They wouldn't put such lies in their company proper name, would they?

Camerinvs

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Posted: 28-Aug-2017, 20:28

Yeah, they must be honest ─ they provide certificates of authenticity!

MonaSeaclaid

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Posted: 28-Aug-2017, 20:33

Posted: 28-Aug-2017, xx:33

So in that location you have information technology. I encounter no reason to doubt them.

ngdawa

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Posted: 31-Aug-2017, 05:45

Quote: "Camerinvs"Too, names such as "The Great International Numismatic Company" are meant to inspire confidence ─ it may, over again, just be a guy in his parents' basement.

Somehow this makes me recall of countries with names including Democratic Republic. If y'all now are democratic, exercise you actually need to put information technology in your proper noun? To me information technology only makes it more suspicious.

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Camerinvs

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Posted: iv-Sep-2017, 17:01

Posted: 4-Sep-2017, 17:01

Quote: "ngdawa"
Somehow this makes me think of countries with names including Democratic Republic. If y'all now are autonomous, exercise you really need to put it in your proper name? To me it just makes it more suspicious.

One of those is in the news these days...

Well, since the fall of the Eastern Cake, is there any "Democratic Republic" left other than Democratic people's republic of korea?

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ngdawa

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Posted: 4-Sep-2017, 17:33

Quote: "Camerinvs"

Quote: "ngdawa"
Somehow this makes me think of countries with names including Democratic Republic. If you now are autonomous, do you really need to put it in your name? To me it just makes information technology more than suspicious.
One of those is in the news these days...

Well, since the autumn of the Eastern Block, is there any "Democratic Republic" left other than Democratic people's republic of korea?

Don't forget the Democratic Republic of the Congo. Nosotros also have East timor, Autonomous Socialist Republic of Sri Lanka, Federal Democratic Republic of Nepal, Lao People'due south Autonomous Democracy, and Algeria

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Camerinvs

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Posted: 4-Sep-2017, 18:22

Posted: 4-Sep-2017, xviii:22

True, and there is also the Federal Democratic Republic of Ethiopia.

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